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Bing also generates political propaganda (guess of what side) if you ask it to generate images with the prompt "person holding a sign that says" without any further content.

https://twitter.com/knn20000/status/1712562424845599045

https://twitter.com/ramonenomar/status/1722736169463750685

https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/1ao1avd/why_did_thi...

https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/1ao1avd/why_did_thi...


It doesn't need to be intentionally "generating propaganda". Their old diversity-by-appending-ethnicity system could easily lead to "a sign that says Black", which could then be filled in with "a sign that says Black Lives Matter", which is probably represented quite well in their training data.


As the images in your Reddit threads hilariously point out, you really shouldn’t believe everything you see on the internet, especially when it comes to AI generated content.

Here is another example: https://www.thehour.com/entertainment/article/george-carlin-...


You should try yourself. The bing image generator is open and free. I tried the same prompts, and it is reproduceable. (Requires a few retries, though)


Enlarge your attention span


This is some bitter truth, hence the downvotes.


How do you downvote on hn?


You need to have a certain amount of karma points to see the downvote arrow. I think 500 so you're almost there.


I searched for "Best Air Purifier for Pets" and I clicked on the first reddit result https://old.reddit.com/r/dyson/comments/1730x73/best_air_pur...

That post is 4 months old but someone posted this just 7 days ago https://old.reddit.com/r/dyson/comments/1730x73/best_air_pur...

Goes to show how little you can trust reddit comments these days, particularly for good google keywords

This is mentioned in TFA:

>Somehow the user has been banned from Reddit, but their comment is still at the top of the thread — we wonder how many other comments this user has published across different subreddits.

This occurs when a moderator in the subreddit has manually approved the comment.


> This occurs when a moderator in the subreddit has manually approved the comment.

If you are a reddit mod and not getting paid in 2024 you're doing it wrong.


A personal car is only a luxury as long as you feel good about mooching off your friends whenever you need one.


In the US, in Manhattan, you can probably make do. And there are other cities where you can probably manage with some combination of Uber and short-/longer-term rentals. And just foreclose on certain types of activities for the most part. But I suspect for a lot of people out of school, "I don't need a car" means the same thing I did as an undergrad, namely lean on people who had one.


You can get by in a lot of cities, like Seattle, without a car if you don’t have kids. You don’t even need to bum rides. Even in LA, I wouldn’t have bought a car if it wasn’t for my wife getting pregnant.


In Boston/Cambridge I could probably get by if I mostly didn't leave the city but I know lots of people outside the city and I do lots of activities that would be outside the city. Unlike Manhattan, the assumption is that you have a car as an adult if you aren't right out of school. There's one job I had (for about 1.5 years) that I could have managed without a car.

I think you're generally OK if most of your activities work via transit and Uber. As you suggest, as well, kids and pets probably make things more difficult.


In several parts of Seattle you genuinely don't need a car, with few compromises. Virtually everything is walkable. Even many of the popular trailheads in the mountains have seasonal bus service. Just about the only time I use public transportation is when I take light rail to the airport. I know quite a few people that live this way.

I do own a car but that is only ever used for traveling to another State or to get into more remote parts of the mountains. For anything else, using a car would be inconvenient.


I'd probably be similar if I lived in Boston/Cambridge these days without a need to commute. I wouldn't use a car day to day. But I'd use one to go to outdoor activities or to visit people outside the city. Even if the economics didn't quite work out, I'd want one customized for my liking just so I didn't need to think about it.


Why would you do this? You can use a bus. Or scooter. Or bycicle. Or walk. Or dismiss journey, maybe it is a luxury itself?


Why would I mooch off friends for car access when I can just rent one?


I've seen this done in Spain and basically it means all kids have to go through an entire year of progressive propaganda. Thanks but no thanks.


So awareness to your cognitive biases is progrssive propaganda? You have deserved my downvote.


This is the same problem that modern Windows has: these systems are designed by 20-something year old designers who wear specs with thick coloured frames and who only use Mac and Safari. They don't give a shit because they don't have to use these systems ever; for them these systems are something they screenshot and put in their portfolios.


> these systems are designed by ...

I don't understand what you're referring to, this firefox addon? Or standard firefox? I'd image that firefox developers actually use it as their browser too..


Standard Firefox.

>I'd image that firefox developers actually use it as their browser too..

The graphic design of Firefox is not made by developers, it's made by designers who don't use Firefox.


Citation needed, I'd say.


vdaea just said it


I have used in the distant past DRM music files that counted how many plays I had left, but I remember not much of it. I think it was a Nokia phone. Maybe WMA files with PlayReady DRM?


Looks like Orange created something called "IDMP platform" (didn't find anything about it online) and used a library called Lasso that is licenced under the infectious GPL without releasing the source code to the "IDMP platform"


Liblasso is also available under a commercial license from the copyright holder.

If Orange wanted a commercial license, there doesn't appear to be any reason why it couldn't have bought one.

https://lasso.entrouvert.org/

https://www.entrouvert.com/expertise/licences/


Or alternatively, buying a proprietary license from Entr'Ouvert. The court finally recognized the authors' purpose with the licensing model and validated it, that's really good news.


> infectious

Self-inflicted.


Definitely - I did not mean "infectious" in a disparaging way, since that's what the licence was written for. If you include GPL code, the licence "infects" everything around it.


The infection meme is very good to easily explain how GPL works - but it does "infect" only if you follow the license terms.

If you do not follow the license terms, you are using a copyrighted work without permission. And then, we are back to plain copyright law, with potential damages being awarded etc. (And the copyright owner is under no obligation to let the past infraction slip just because the violating party decides to suddenly follow the GPL terms.)


>And the copyright owner is under no obligation to let the past infraction slip just because the violating party decides to suddenly follow the GPL terms.

The owner might not, the court might. Proving damages from tardy publishing of source code would be tedious (at least in the EU). In this case they used their proprietary license option to justify the damages, which doesn't exist for a lot of software.


Yes, that is a very good point. To be awarded monetary damages, you have to make a case for it. In practice, I think a lot of companies wouldn't want to find out and try to settle in private instead.

In this case as you say, they had a proprietary license, so I guess the bottom floor for damages is the same price as a proprietary license. But I could from my complete layman perspective imagine damages to reputation, decreased likelyhood of getting new proprietary sales in the future if companies can ignore the licensing terms with impunity etc?


No environmental laws or worker protections? Is this based on truth or prejudice?

Subsidies and mandates are good when the EU does them but bad when China does them?


Western companies have been basically shut out of the Chinese market since the beginning-even more is now. A huge trade imbalance should have naturally balanced itself out in a true free market. The fact it’s been so distorted for decades shows how bad it is. A rebalancing must occur and will be good for everyone in the long run

Chinese policy making has been hugely protectionist and interventions lost for decades.


  Western companies have been basically shut out of the Chinese market since the beginning-even more is now.
Sometimes I wonder what people actually read to write something like that.

China is Mercedes' biggest market. Audi sells more cars in China than in all of Europe. Tesla is one of the top EV sellers in China.

It's actually the US who has shut off China's access to the US car market.


You mean “ Beijing Benz” which is owned 51% by china and makes their own cars too using the tech taken from Mercedes?


Not sure that’s entirely true, especially if we’re talking cars. Volkswagen China is around 50% of VW sales, and Mercedes sells 40+% in China for example. If we’re talking US cars, they’re typically too focused on US market desires for other countries.


With mandatory transfers of all technology and giving up 51% ownership of the forced joint ventures?


Don't move the goal post.


Again, it’s not Mercedes selling cars in China. It’s some joint venture that’s majority owned by the Chinese that has forcibly taken Mercedes tech and has made millions of cars using it. You can’t compare a Mercedes in the USA and China and say they are equivalent


Chicken tax.


So...? Tariffs are just like subsidies or taxes, a transfer of money between one sector and another sector in the economy


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