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Theyre already here and affecting some groups. Just ask how privileged you are before youre next on the list

I agree, but I was trying not to be so "controversial" but I see that did not help. Someone already thinks all of this is fine and not authoritarian without providing me with an explanation.

Forums will make fun of you for saying that Nazi's are here until they are surrounded by Nazis wondering what happened.


"Fascism, like the future, is already here, it's just unevenly distributed".

"Fascism, like the future, is already here, it's just unevenly distributed".

SNAP!


Its not good faith because its already broken by vpn. And its forcing kids with no credit cards to download free and malware ridden ones. How would you measure any level of success from this initiative? Doing something isnt a solution if it has tons of bad sideeffects


> its forcing kids with no credit cards to download free and malware ridden ones

It very much is not.


It very much is. Free VPNs almost always have some sort of catch. E.g. HolaVPN users agree in the ToS to become an exit node for other VPN users: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hola_(VPN)

If social media is so compelling, then teens almost certainly will take whatever steps are necessary to access it.


Proton has a good free offering.

That's not the point though. The kids can just not get a VPN, and instead do something else with their time.


Because social media is so easy to cut out you dont need to ban it or its so addictive you do?


> Its not good faith because its already broken by vpn.

One does not follow from the other.

We make speeding illegal even though even the most affordable cars can trivially bypass all speed restrictions. It doesn't mean that the efforts to curb speeding are in bad faith just because it is still possible to bypass speed reduction rules.


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> That[']s a great comparison.

Thank you. I thought it was a pretty good analogy, too.

>Wonder why banning homelessness works so well[?] Oh we don[']t ban it? Must be because we don[']t care enough[.]

I do not understand what point you are trying to make about homelessness, and how that would be at all relevant to keeping teenagers from having accounts on social media.

That's not a great comparison.

I was just pointing out that the existence of ways to violate a law, does not in any way, mean that passing the law or enforcing it is a bad faith effort.


If we are so concerned about the materials make the platforms moderate them like they used to do. Banning them reeks of favoring the murdoch outlets which are free to spread misinformation


The ban is being enacted by the Australian Labor Party, which the Murdoch media is certainly not friendly with. If it ends up favouring Murdoch, it won’t have been deliberate.


Murdoch media killed a story critical of Labor government member so there is not _no_ evidence of support here.

https://archive.is/Hlr4l



The traditional outlets you are referring to are now worse because of social media.


nothing is worse than social media - absolutely nothing


I bet you Sky news gets more views through social media than TV broadcast these days! Many of their hosts are all over X, spreading misinformation. They are downstream from social media now, not seperate from it I suspect.

Murdoch benefits from the political agitation that the landscape of social media provides.

I do agree on making platforms moderate themselves. This legsliation helps do this by creating a discussion about the harms, enforcing a culture of harm (this is not for all ages, not default for everyone). Saying to the companies: "Hey, if you don't want to be regulated, clean up your platform so it's safer". Will that happen? no idea, but if it doesn't, no children is still a good goal (it's how you get there that has the contention).


They didnt really suffer or they dont have choice?


Bracketing would solve all of that. Im pretty sure the spirit of this is not to tax working class people into relying on a pension.

Im sure everyone agrees Jeff Bezos shouldnt be taxed the same as someone who needs retirement planning


Perhaps, but the Norway tax mentioned in the article kicks in at $174k net worth. That's a paid off house and a nearly drained 401k for even the poorest of Americans. Yes there is an exemption for part of the house, but even if it were 100% exempt, I think you're going to have a rough time getting support for taxing 1% of a retirement account worth less than the code section it's named for.


Replying to myself since it's too late to edit, but according to these numbers[1], it looks like this tax would hit about 52% of American households, so my "even the poorest of Americans" is a bit overwrought. And if we take the US median home price (~410k as of this year[2]) and exclude 75% of that (~307k), then this tax would hit ~30% of American households (~$481k net worth). Even at that, it's still quite a hurdle to clear to convince the top 1/3 of households support a 1% tax on their accumulated wealth.

[1]: https://dqydj.com/net-worth-percentiles/ [2]: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MSPUS


Depends on your customers understanding that. We had a gym with 'smart' pilates machines that went down. Hard to explain to them the cloud is involved


I mean you could earn money investing in crime. Until it doesnt pay


Elections matter


To a company like Boeing? I think their tendrils are deep enough into government that it doesn't matter who the administration of the day is.

The number of people who work in government and the military and aren't subject to elections is orders of magnitude greater than the number of elected politicians.


Or it could also be like blockchain and nfts...


I have been programming as a hobby for almost 20 years. At least for me, there is huge value using LLM's for code. I don't need anyone else's permission, nor anyone else to participate for the LLM's to work for me. You absolutely can not say that about blockchain, nft, or crypto in general.


Nah that comparison doesnt make sense.

There is certainly real market penetration with LLMs. However, there is a huge gap between fantasy and reality - as in what is being promised vs what is being delivered and the effects on the economy are yet to play out.


Whos watching him?


The rich don't get watched.

This is strictly for the poor.

As usual.


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