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David Micay, the inventor and technical lead of CopperheadOS, left the company after a breakdown in communications with his business partner. He now leads the GrapheneOS project which can be considered the Copperhead OS successor.

GrapheneOS is endorsed by Edward Snowden https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1175430722733129729?s=09



Between https://grapheneos.org/ with source under an open license along with what reads as a fair attempt at presenting the split, and op... I'd certainly prefer the open os as my secure os...



He's a toxic individual who attacks community based projects on the regular. No wonder he got canned.


This is an ironically caustic comment on a matter which has plenty of first hand accounting you could link to, but prefer to simply label him as toxic.

And IMO, it's extremely misrepresentative, but if you could link to some displays of what you're referring to then I suppose we could debate what you mean by "toxic".


Daniel saying Mozilla is using 4chan posts to attack him.

https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1264528965127024644

Daniel stating he feels Brave has nefarious intentions.

https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1154509303962689536

Daniel Micay attacking the Tor Project for considering use of his hardened allocator

https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2019-August/0...


> Daniel saying Mozilla is using 4chan posts to attack him.

And of course you don't show any context at all.

> Daniel stating he feels Brave has nefarious intentions.

The DRM is a valid issue. Brave is not impervious to all criticism.

> Daniel Micay attacking the Tor Project for considering use of his hardened allocator

That's not what happened at all. He never attacked them for that. He debunked the nonsense that Tom Ritter was posting. The Tor Project never even considered using hardened_malloc either. I suggested that Whonix use hardened_malloc and so HulaHoop (another Whonix developer) asked if this could affect web browser fingerprinting on the mailing list. No Tor Project developer made any indication that they wanted to include hardened_malloc - quite the opposite.

https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2019-August/0...

Have you even read these links or do you just want to mindlessly promote Copperhead?


Considering that hackernews throw a fit every time they see an attempt at monetization via cryptocurrency, and that the guy is seemingly complaining about the same thing, I don't think linking the Brave thing is helping your case...


I have actually seen mozilla(-sphere) people attacking the reputation of people doimg valid criticisms on their bugtracker. I dont accuse Foundation/Corp members directly. It could be "volunteers".


As for the last point, anyone can clearly see that Daniel is refuting the fact that jemalloc is insecure. There is no discussion of using hardened malloc at all. Nobody is being attacked for using hardened malloc. Only some misinformation has been corrected as others have pointed out

Please read the contents of that link and you'll arrive at the same conclusion


That sounds like paranoid ramblings.


I get why people can be pissed at Micay. He is very principled and exact. But not false. Always calm even in the tweets around the split. Its immature to label this as toxic. Toxic means to me: - Using drama intentionally to destroy a conversation/community/person - Creating a personal cult around oneself to farm uninformed defenders. - Scaring away productive but timid people by actual foul language and tasteless ingroup humour.

I dont agree with a bunch of Micays opinions. But when it comes to technical facts, I cant argue much because he is so exact with this. But I have never seen any emotional insults from him nor any emotional manipulation.


You are either misinterpreting his replies and comments, or intentionally trying to mislead readers into thinking he actually falls into that category when in reality most people just don't like how crude he is in responses. In other words, your labeling of him is inaccurate, regardless of intention unless you somehow misworded your message. Ironically enough, I could just as easily label you as toxic for saying something I don't like, as I'm sure you'll do the same with this comment because it's in your best interest to not look bad, or out of sheer misinterpretation or assumption of tone in text. Depending on context, replying a certain way doesn't really justify others indefinitely labeling you as "toxic".


This isn't even mentioning how others constantly attack him and serve null points as if its a gotcha moment. If you don't like him, just say so instead of slandering him on such a subjective matter.




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