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Do people live in their browsers like that? I find it useful to keep both.

95% of the time I'm in Firefox, as one should be -- with all the good adblockers etc.

And for the 5% unavoidable garbage of "things I must use/sign up for in life" that don't implement things properly, including Zoom, I keep Chrome around.



If you or a random reader is on MacOS, try out Orion - a Safari fork that has support for both Chrome AND Firefox plug-ins. I can't stop using Safari... I know, I'm a dying breed, and people at work were (and still are) a bit weirded out by it, but if you're like me, Orion is a very nice alternative if you want "real" adblockers (and 10000s of other plugins) at your disposal!


Safari is a fine browser, and it’s the best experience on macOS, imo.


I wish I could just use Safari, but uBlock Origin and 7TV are the two browser extensions that I'm way too used to. Too bad, there are some things in Orion that bother me (wonky desktop-mobile sync is the biggest one).


Does it support syncing? I have a MacBook but I mainly use my Windows desktop as well as an Android phone, all with Firefox.


I love safari, I find its UI leaps and bounds ahead of other browsers (with brave a close second).


Chrome is now scanning every file on your computer and sending back metadata to google unless you opt-out in the name of "we made our browser an antivirus too!" but nobody sane believes that stuff.

At least use a different chromium based browser instead of chrome itself. Brave is a fine option.


That feature was introduced in 2015 and they removed it already. https://security.googleblog.com/2023/03/thank-you-and-goodby...


Good point, Linux guy here, I always use Chromium -- perhaps this is a Linux thing but I always forget that there's a difference.


I hear this now and again, but haven't had Chrome installed for years now without issue. I'm made to use things like Zoom et al. too, but everything "just works" for me?


Teams was a classic hellhole for me when I was using Linux. Nowadays it lets you in but Firefox genuinely doesn't support all of the features the Teams site uses. This means certain features are made unavailable to Firefox users. Forcing the user agent makes some of these partially work but they are also still broken so Mozilla doesn't want to enable a user agent override by default and Microsoft doesn't want to enable a feature that only half works. This GitHub WebCompat issue serves as a good example history https://github.com/webcompat/web-bugs/issues/77892

Haven't used Zoom in browser much so can't say what one can find there. I just run the desktop app. It's definitely something where you can go a few years with everything working fine then suddenly hit like 4 sites where you're like "wtf, why is shit so broken?". Chipotle and similar joints' online order pages were another place that would spontaneously break.


Yeah, it's pretty rare. Like now that I think about it, it isn't even that Zoom doesn't work -- it's that Zoom-in-Firefox-on-Linux doesn't seem to have the fake background thing and I need that because it's easier than cleaning my garage-office :)

And I'm guessing that's either deliberate or lazy on Zoom.


I'm the other way around with ungoogled-chromium but yeah I do the same.


In my experience, only sites that break are google ones. Right now Google Flights and Hotels are pretty much unusable, as is GCP console.


Not even those are broken for me. What's broken for you?


https://youtu.be/e-uGQlT97lc

For example this. I'm trying hard to click on the "Sun 1 Oct" button.

Google sites - with exceptions, like Maps or YT - are full of things like this.


Odd, works for me. I'm not on the same hotel, but clicking dates on that site for another random hotel works fine. I wonder what the difference is :/




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