I guess that depends on your definition of magic, you talk like we understand everything about the universe, I'm sure that for all intense and purposes, there is plenty of "magic" left.

I am FAR from believing that we understand everything about the universe.

What I mean is that we haven't found an example of something where it has been shown that the only possible explanation is magic.

Do you have an example? Sounds like you are the one that is claiming greater knowledge of things.

If you can't see the magic in existence itself, in many natural phenomena, then I guess that's your problem.

There is magic even in things we understand. Gravity, magnetic forces, the ability to feel emotions it goes on forever basically.

What I've actually come to realize is the phrase, "nothing is magic" is actually nonsensical because it's a paradox. Things can be understood and still magic.

You are conflating different meanings of magic. Precise language is necessary for this conversation to have any value.

> the magic in existence itself

this refers to the mystery of why anything exists at all, and why it exists in the way it does. Not the same as some special property that only exists in certain phenomena.

> There is magic even in things we understand

This again refers to the "why it exists in the way that it does" again, as fundamental forces just "are" rather than having a causal explanation. Again, not the same thing.

> Things can be understood and still magic

That's the opposite of what you were saying before, which is that there is some special element within us that can't be replicated in a machine. That would require us not understanding something, or at the very least recognizing and understanding some property that we have identified that can't be replicated in machines, which we haven't.

What is your definition of "magic"?

My TL;DR is really, just have an open mind because until we really truly understand how the brain works then you don't really know what type of "magic" is involved in producing the wonderful ability to enjoy life and experience.

My definition of magic is: mysteriously enchanting; magical: magic beauty. That's from dictionary.com btw.

Something can be explainable through words or scientific study and still be mysterious, enchanting and having magic beauty.

I'm very open minded, and have some pretty crazy ideas about reality (just look at my comment history), and in fact practice nondual meditation, which is grounded in the idea that everything is mind, and there is no separation between objective and subjective reality. Pretty magical stuff.

But topics have scope. I still find value in science. I recognize that science is just the map and not the territory, and is not a final answer about any truth. Within the confines of science itself though, there are an internal set of rules that keep it consistent. Intermingling two systems only confuses the issue. I don't use dzogchen nondual meditation to analyze chemical reactions, and I don't use science to analyze the qualia of my personal experience.

That being said, there is room for going up a level and seeing where the two systems might synergize or interact, but it requires a lot of thought and effort. It's not just something you come up with off the cuff. Magic in the Harry Potter sense may exist but until there is some mechanism for measuring it and understanding it, there's no room for it within scientific methods.

It's a metaphysical issue to intertwine the two ideas, not a physical one.