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It is strange two phones have been found, but not the door. Most of the Cedar Hills/Beaverton area is houses and shops with sporadic green spaces that aren’t that large in comparison. It is possible the door fell into a green space, but the odds are it did not. I imagine it is in someone’s backyard, but it is January in rainy Oregon. People aren’t doing yard work right now. I wouldn’t be surprised if it isn’t found until Spring when someone goes out to their backyard and discovers it.

It would be amusing if it fell into the lake on Nike Campus. It is fairly shallow, but if it was in the middle, it might not be noticed for a long time.



Edit: it has been found! I’m on mobile and not able to find a better link right now, but here’s an NTSB spokesperson discussing it: https://www.facebook.com/story.php/?id=100064737668850&story...

Sounds like the thing in the woods mentioned below was not the real deal and just some other bit of garbage or something that was dumped in the brush.

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I live in this neighborhood and saw a post on Nextdoor a little bit ago that indicates the door/panel may have been found. The text of the post is as follows: “My husband and I were walking the trail behind the Renaissance Town-homes near Barnes and Valeira View and we saw a large white oval object with a teal stripe on it in the brambles between the creek and Barnes Road. Two others saw it too and they called non-emergency. WCSO and the NTSB showed up but they could not affirm that that is what is was. As my husband said, nobody will know until they walk over to it. Unfortunately the undergrowth prevented us from doing so. We'll see, or not.”

The description of it having a teal stripe could match up with the missing panel, although we obviously can’t be sure yet if it is actually the missing part. I also saw a post from one of the folks who found a phone, and they had included a photo of where they found it, which I recognized to be fairly close to the place where the door was potentially found.

Sometimes we hear stuff on our roof, but it’s always just pinecones falling or a squirrel running around… makes me grateful we haven’t had a Donnie Darko scene in our yard or on our roof!



Disappointed there is no photo of what it looked like when it was found. As in a photo of the door at the place it was found before anyone moved it anywhere.


It's a little strange NTSB would show up but not be able to get to the door(-like object). Seems like a drone could fly over it.



So it was found in someone’s backyard.


The door was found. Here is the NTSB official YouTube channel where they discuss that it was found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7Pfj8G7Rdg


The door can probably glide quite a bit farther, maybe?


The phones are trackable via gps


Boeing needs "Find My Door"


They should make the whole plane out of AirTags


Good thing ships aren't losing doors. As far as I know, Apple doesn't offer SeaTags.


Well, at least it was the side that fell off, not the front.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM


I don't think it fell outside the environment either.



Ships do lose containers regularly though. New market opportunity!


How do you misplace a container?


They lose them to sea weather. It's a thing: https://www.npr.org/2021/04/01/983017153/cargo-overboard-int...


And the sucked out phones can do the reporting


And the Air Force needs "Find My F-35". Lol.


The post says the phone was in airplane mode, and was found by chance as someone walked past it.


Technically it had been in airplane mode, but now it was in sideoftheroad mode.


Maybe a phone could automatically disable airplane mode if it detects a sudden loss of altitude?


Automatically switches to last words recorder mode.


Reminds me of the skydiver who dropped his camera and you can watch it spin and eventually land in a pigpond where a pig investigates it. It’s on YouTube.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QrxPuk0JefA, if anything else is curious.

Have to admit, amazing plot and production, all in a minute!


I love that video


Find My works in airplane mode.


So, being in airplane mode helped it land safely? :)


Apparently not a factor in this case, though true.


The phone was in airplane mode, so not actually trackable.


Airplane mode allows bluetooth, so it is trackable through Find My.


I was rather surprised at this comment. A quick google later it seems that airplane mode turns off all radio communication (as I suspected), but apparently it is possible to turn Bluetooth or WiFi on while remaining in airplane mode. At least for some phones.

Honestly did not consider that.


Airplane mode on iOS does _not_ by default turn off wifi and bluetooth, just the cellular radio. At least in Europe; it's possible that this is driven by regional regulations. Though I think pretty much everywhere allows use of the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands in the air now.


I do this as soon as I’m home. Now both Android and iOS automatically keep bluetooth and wifi on when turning on airplane mode, provided the user does it the first time.

I do it because cell reception is quite poor at my house so calls are better off staying on wifi - also battery life is improved.


I fly regularly with an iPhone and use United’s WiFi entertainment on a regular basis. Also I often switch on airplane mode when I don’t want an international plan to activate and use WiFi all the time.


The reason being that "airplane mode" is there to save the terrestrial mobile network. It has nothing to do with the airplane, and there's no reason to turn off wifi or bluetooth on an airplane.


Bluetooth is nearfield. Increases the radius of finding it, but still makes it a needle-in-a-haystack, IMO.


Not in airplane mode, though.


I actually wondered about this. My iPhone can be located even when turned off, so long as I haven't deactivated that functionality at shutdown (has to be done each time). Is an iPhone in airplane mode really less trackable than an iPhone that is turned off?


Find My is bluetooth-based, which is fine to use on airplanes as well.


I feel like the BT behavior varies when I activate airplane mode. If I am currently connected to my BT headphones, they stay connected. If I am not, then activating airplane mode appears to turn off BT (pulling out my headphones and trying to connect doesn't work). But I would be surprised if the Find My functionality didn't work in airplane mode, given how Apple set it up to work even when turned off (you must manually set it not to be active, and you must put in your passcode each time).


When I turn on Airplane mode on my iPhone, it switches bluetooth into that "not quite off" mode that you get if you just tap the Bluetooth button in the control center (the icon goes white rather than a cross through it like if you turn it off completely in Settings). The Not Quite Off mode IIRC allows stuff like Apple Watch, Apple Pencil, Handoff, Find My, etc[0] to use Bluetooth but it disconnects all the paired Bluetooth devices you are using (basically it solves that "damn my phone is still connected to the headphones in the other room!" problem that 90% of people turning Bluetooth off are trying to fix)

[0] Full list https://support.apple.com/en-au/102412


I imagine airplane mode turns off regular Bluetooth, but Bluetooth Low Energy meant for “Find My” is still allowed.

The same behavior as turning off the phone.


I think airplane mode has memory and just switches to the last settings you had in airplane mode. My WiFi and BT stay turned on.




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