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It's my understanding that steel is one of the more repairable metals? Aluminium and carbon fibre can't be welded as easily (in the case of aluminium) or at all (in the case of carbon fibre).

Steel framed bicycles are good enough for the vast majority. I fear bike manufacturers are switching to less repairable materials and proprietary parts to increase profits.



Steel has a better failure story than carbon fiber. Many impacts that would shatter a carbon fiber frame, dangerous to the rider, will only bend a steel one. Carbon fiber makes sense for a racing bike, but for street riding I'll stick with steel.


A friend of mine was nearly killed on a carbon fibre frame that just tore itself apart while going up a hill and threw him into the road, unconscious. I would never touch one for street riding.


Was the frame damaged before? I have ridden 4k miles on my carbon road bike and I've never felt like it was going to fall apart.

I ride road/street almost exclusively, and the Bay Area roads don't do my bike any favors


Carbon fiber frames can be challenging to see the cracks and damages to it before it spectacularly fails. There's a good chance you won't know it is about to break until it shatters.


Any material under stress gets fatigued. The problem with carbon fiber specifically is that there are practically no visible signs of it reaching the threshold.


Some materials (steel and titanium being the most common) have infinite fatigue limits. They can be designed to not get fatigued.


Nope. As far as he knew it was in complete working order with no suggestion it was about to fail catastrophically until he woke up on the floor.


This is incredibly uncommon.

While horrifying for your friend, it's very low on the list of the risks that come with bikes.


It might be less uncommon than you think. https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/bikes-and-biking/...


I don’t know how common it is, but why would you take that risk on the road for a couple kg of weight savings? If you’re racing competitively that’s one thing, but is it worth it on the commute?


> I fear bike manufacturers are switching to less repairable

Is the frame really an issue though? I don't aluminum frames break that often, I'd bet that's probably one of the least common problem for modern bikes (gears, brakes, suspension etc. are way more fragile). Most bikes are likely to be discarded way before the frame would need to be repaired. It seems totally like a red herring to me..

> Steel framed bicycles are good enough for the vast majority

Well most people don't seem to agree. There are still plenty of steel bikes available, even relatively high-end ones, they are just not that popular.


Yes, steel, especially non heat treated 4130 crhomoly is repairable at just about any metal working shop. That's why it's the choice of bicycle tourers and custom frame builders. Also a steel frame is very dependable, bicycle enthusiasts usually rebuild thier steel frame a couple of times during its lifetime. Last year I bought a lugged steel road bike frame that has the same age as myself and build up with a mix of vintage and contemporary components with vintage looks.

Alloy, titanium and carbon fiber are lighter and that's what most consumers want, having watched Tour de France and bicycle industry marketing materials. Big brands facing increased competition from Asia started to put carbon frames of questionable quality on the market, so if you want an okay bike you are best served by alloy, because they're mass produced and the process is quite optimized and well understood. Titanium is basically unrepairable without special tooling and know how and it feels basically the same as alloy. It's stronger and more corrosion resistant.

The bike industry also puts a lot of new or proprietary standards on the market, especially when it comes to bottom backets. Other new standards include different fork spacing, head tube diameters, rear suspension couplers, proprietary frame integrated suspension and more recently integrated e-bike batteries. The worst offensers are Cannondale, Specialized, Trek and Cervelo.

If you want a bike with sensible standards you want a BSA threaded bottom bracket if it's a metal frame or BB86/92 press fit if it's a carbon frame, a fork with a 1 1/8" steerer or tappered from 1 1/8" to 1 1/2" steerer if it's a mountain bike or a high end road bike, a 34 mm or a 44 mm head tube, 135 mm O.L.D. rear and 100 mm front fork spacing for quick release skewers or 148 mm/110 mm boost spacing if it's a newer mountain bike or 142 mm/100 mm spacing if it's a newer road bike with thru axles, a seat post diameter of 27.2 if it's a road bike or 31.6 mm if it's a newer mountian bike. For brake mounts I prefer IS brake mounts because they're robust, don't have threads to cross thread and misalignment issues are not common, but modern road bikes come with the flat mount (FM) standard and newer alloy MTBs come with post mount (PM). What you probably don't want is a mountain bike with flat mount brakes, funny axle standards, direct derailleur mounts, integrated seat posts, integrated cockpits, full internal routing, lefty forks, integrated frame suspension and so on.


Carbon fibre frames can actually be repaired and there are quite a few companies that do it. In fact I'd go as far as saying that the damage that would write off an aluminium frame can be repaired with a carbon one in 9/10 cases. The problem is that you really need specialist equipment and know-how to do it, which drives the prices up, a steel frame can be welded by almost anyone with some basic knowledge and tools.

>> I fear bike manufacturers are switching to less repairable materials and proprietary parts to increase profits.

So I kinda disagree, there is greater interoperability in bikes now than there ever was(imho). Many SRAM parts can be used with Shimano parts and vice versa, nearly everything is still easily disassemblable and repairable by someone with a work stand and a set of tools.

The biggest "threat" to bike repairability is unfortunately electrification - motors and batteries are essentially black boxes that while repairable(nearly all ebike motors are right now) the skill level to do so is significantly higher. And batteries are of course disposable, no one repairs them as far as I know. Which is a shame because buying an ebike has been completely transformative for me with MTB as a hobby - it removed some mental barriers for going out on my bike out of fear I'll get too tired to continue, with an ebike I go much more often and ride for longer and further. But while I can do 90% of the maintenance on it myself(and I think anyone can with a bit of spare time), if the motor goes I'll have to rely on a third party to fix it.


Steel bikes are more typically extremely cheap bikes nowadays. Too cheap to bother repairing in any way that the material choice would matter.


Carbon can be easily glued and recooked to be as new.




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