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A lot of actual pedophiles will be exposed if it was used on politicians, we don't want that.


While we're talking about corrupt politicians, why is this all happening all at once?

America, Great Britain, and the EU are all creating tracking, monitoring, and censorship regulations. All at the same time.

We're turning the internet into the 1984 inevitability it was predicted to become.

We need a Bill of Rights against this. But the public is too lay to push for this. Bolstering or eroding privacy rights will never happen in the direction we want, only the one we don't. It's so frustrating.


There's lobby organisations that try to influence politicians in different countries: https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the...


For over a decade now there’s been a huge global shift toward authoritarianism, and to some extent it’s grassroots. My speculation is that this is a time of unprecedented change and that scares people. We also have aging populations due to lower birth rates and older people tend (on average) toward nostalgic reactionary politics.


At least two decades now, here I remember people talking back then about newly introduced CCTV cameras, and making maps of them so people could avoid the surveillance.


Yes.

It's a tremendous opportunity, presently.

Power is never before so easily gotten.

Fight: Collaborate, Empathize, Reject division.


> older people tend (on average) toward nostalgic reactionary politics

Just a friendly reminder that it was millenials who brought us censorship, cancel culture and other totalitarian bs. People who are older today, saw nearly absolute online freedom and miss that, not some "nostalgic reactionary politics".


I think millennial cancel culture falls under the "fear of rapid change" heading.

Before the Internet went big and mainstream we were in an era I've heard termed managerial democracy. Big media was able to largely regulate the Overton window. Social activists were able, by getting into big media via the path of the universities, to push things like racism and homophobia out of the Overton window and keep them out. This largely worked, creating the illusion (and I now firmly believe it was an illusion) that these things were dying or dead. I remember growing up in the 90s and thinking racism was something maybe a few old geezers in the South believed. "Sure grandpa, the South will rise again, now lets get you your meds."

Personally I see this as well-intentioned, but that's because I think racism is a low form of primate tribalism.

Then the net came along and made it so any yahoo with a few bucks could post. Couple that with algorithms that tend to elevate controversial (thus engaging) content, and racism and all the other banished isms vaulted back onto the stage. They were never dead IMHO, just out of polite discourse. I didn't realize that growing up but I sure see it now.

Lefty cancel culture was an attempt to repeat the purge of those things from big media with the Internet and it didn't work and couldn't work. I did and still do sympathize but I think it's pissing into a hurricane.

Of course there's plenty of right wing cancel culture too that we're seeing now. That's a different beast. Cancel culture historically is a creature of the right. The left form is probably a brief historical aberration brought about by the conditions I outlined above. I'm hearing lefties admit defeat on this right now, and some question whether it was a good idea to try.

Racism won't be dead until people actually change their hearts and minds. Controlling the discourse just means you don't hear about it.


I think the UK (and EU) have been at this for a while. The UK pushed for the Data Retention Directive in the EU in the mid 2000s that required ISPs to save all the websites you visit. This was eventually ruled to be illegal, but it was still in force for several years.

These guys have been at it for a while.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive


Australia too. They've been playing with this for decades. The latest push is similar to the UK: age verification for porn and social media, but watch it expand once introduced.

The Establishment really don't like how they're not in control of what everyone hears or sees any more. It used to be so cozy for them.


In Australia it's going to be really easy to justify adding this as a requirement to video games: they already ban games by default and then selectively allow them. Bridging the two seems pretty easy to justify politically.

I guess liberal democracy's days are numbered.


I would not be surprised if it's the US pressuring everyone else. Thiel is probably salivating to get a deal for Palantir to implement it.

That said, the UK doesn't need much convincing in this regard I suppose, they've always had their fair share of extreme laws along these lines and Leyen has personally dreamt of this for ages.


Palantir CEO interview about the future was straight up "YOU ALL are MEAT. Only I matter."

F that noise.


Authoritarians will always try and pull this kind of shit. It's just what they do. The bigger question you should be asking is where's the coordinated pushback?

Where are the celebrities and public figures taking a stand against this?

Where are the grassroots organizations organizing protests and promoting sousveillance programs against the authoritarians who want to take away our rights and privacy?

The reason why this is all happening at once is because there's no resistance to it.

Until there's meaningful resistance you're just gonna see authoritarian policies keep snowballing.


> Where are the celebrities and public figures taking a stand against this?

Many of them support it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(organization)#Notable_s...


Where are the celebrities and public figures taking a stand against this?

They're afraid of losing their job or being painted as someone who supports terrorists, pedophiles, or other criminals.


The pandemic showed that govs can push what they want with minimal resistance and having the public on each other throats. People are also fatigued and isolated more than ever, perfect time to seize total control.


Security is worth half a shit these days and Five Eyes can't remotely access everybody's phone without it getting noticed by people. So they need to keep transport insecure.


They are gearing for WW3 and population control.

This is obvious.

Get out of EU.

Now.


Before they could do that, you will see many countries amending their conscription laws.

Now they just need to find a reason to brainwash the general public to sleepwalk into fighting another war.


We already tried requiring CP rings to collect ID in the US. It doesn't seem to have worked out the way you're suggesting. It was called the Epstein client list if you're curious.


This.




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