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that’s not learning…we have a fundamentally different understanding of what cognition, intelligence, and learning are

adding text to storage and searching over it is not memory. “knowing” those things about you is not learning. and guess what, context still fills up. trying putting that LLM again in the real world, facing real human challenges, with all the real sensory input around you. it’s nonsensical

and it’s not about “limits” of humans. machines can do math and many things better, that’s been apparent for decades. yes, they can “remember” 8k video streams much better than us. that’s not “memory” in the human sense and machines don’t “learn” from it in the human sense

(your IP address is much easier to link your accounts than your text)



> adding text to storage and searching over it is not memory. “knowing” those things about you is not learning.

Why not? If humans store data in their brains, isn't that learning? Of course data can include skills and connections, for both humans and AIs.

> and guess what, context still fills up.

Human memory also has limits.

Sorry, but I really don't see how the distinctions you're trying to make even exist, much less qualify as markers of intelligence.


> Why not? If humans store data in their brains, isn't that learning?

No. We’re back to my earlier point of you and I have fundamentally different understanding of cognition, intelligence, and learning. And genuinely not trying to be condescending, but I suspect you don’t have a good grounding in the technology we’re discussing


> No. We’re back to my earlier point of you and I have fundamentally different understanding of cognition, intelligence, and learning. And genuinely not trying to be condescending, but I suspect you don’t have a good grounding in the technology we’re discussing

Yeah, that definitely came off as condescending. Especially on HN, where pretty much everyone here has a grounding in the technology we're discussing. In any case, your arguments have not dealt with technology at all, but on hand-wavy distinctions like "temporality."

Anyway, to the larger point: I agree that "you and I have fundamentally different understanding of cognition, intelligence, and learning" but your inability to explain your own understanding of these terms and why they are relevant is why your arguments are unpersuasive.


yeah that’s fair — I’ll write them ip more cogently :) I am confident you are mistaken




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