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Rational argument: the government has lied innumerable times. The reason we know about a handful of them is journalism. If you want your spin straight from the tap, you can read press releases on the DoD website. If you want critical analysis, verification, and other perspectives you’re gonna need a healthy fifth estate. Journalists have biases, but so do governments.


The media is called the fourth estate (not 5th). A 5th column would be more like sleeper cells.

And the media lies at least as much as our government. That's why ratings are so far down. They have burned their credibility that previous generations of journalists spent decades building up.


Ah, you’re half right. The fourth estate is what I meant to refer to. The fifth estate means outsider media, not sleeper cells - idk where you’re getting that.

As for “the media lies”, sure, and if a person is speaking lies will be said - but that is hardly a fact that can be used to dismiss all journalism.


That is only part of the story, not the full story, where journalists and CIA analysts get together and determine the truth. you've seen the video Snowden posted about this? It is a known reality. Why hide it behind the facade of a free press? There are many dimensions to this story, including Zionist bias by mainstream "journalists" that told you there was no genocide and Israel is a victim, and they've kept up that lie even after the UN declared it a genocide.




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