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Forbes 30 under 30 never misses


Yes. Like an investment by SoftBank that's almost a kiss of death now. They even have a hall of shame.


If SoftBank invests in a 30 Under 30 founder, does it cancel each other out, or does it effectively speed-run the time between investment and jail time


I don't know about the speed-ups but it certainly sets them up for a Netflix/Hulu documentary.


Depends on the jurisdiction.


Most of successful founders are over 40. They should probably drop the paradigm entirely and start publishing a "40 over 40" list for up and coming founders.


They didn’t care about success. They cared about flash and notoriety.

Which notably aren’t very often correlated with long term success, but aren’t completely divorced from it either.

The thing to realize is that the news is about notable things, and things are notable when they’re not normal/standard/boring.

In your personal life, it’s often (actually) ideal to live a life that no newspaper reporter would give a second thought about writing up.


It’s odd, seems like most executives 40 and up seem to only care about flash and notoriety too…


The ones I’ve seen who actually get things done, weren’t particularly.

And if not actually getting things done, in my experience the shelf life is short.

But hey, lots of different ways to get money, and as long as you can avoid a fraud charge I guess?


For the record there are several regions, most with many many categories (some rather sad ones from the NA list: "venture capital", "social media", "retail and e-commerce", and "marketing and advertising"). There were 1230 total people on the global lists this year. Of course Forbes can't really defend itself because the notion of a "twelve hundred under 30" damages the pay-to-play golden goose. I would recommend poking around the list if you ever want a mood lightener. There are a truly comical number of people whose bio reads: "co-founder (CEO is over 30) of AI powered yadada which has raised $3M from investors". I think the median 30u30 business actually has considerably less revenue than a typical convenience store.


The criteria to be on the list is having a PR team to get you on the list.

The overlap between Under 30's with a PR team dedicated to getting them "on the list" and grifters, shysters and con artists is pretty big.


it has become a go to list of who to be scammers.


WTH good ranking for Forbes. How much % is fraud at Forbes?

JPMorgan was lured in by what appeared to be a database of 4 million users. In reality, that figure hovered around 300,000 users. Federal prosecutors had requested a 12-year prison sentence. Lawyers for Ms Javice, who had pleaded not guilty, had asked for just 18 months. US District Judge Alvin Hellerstein also ordered Ms Javice to forfeit more than $22m - and pay more than $287m to JPMorgan together with her co-defendant Olivier Amar, the start-up's chief growth and acquisition officer. Ms Javice, 33, made a name for herself in finance after founding Frank in 2017. The start-up was lauded for helping students navigate the college financial aid process, and Ms Javice was named on the Forbes '30 Under 30' list two years after starting the company.


What?


How much % of Forbes is fraud? Anyone keeps tracking?


I think all of them have been found guilty of something


The dot-com Era equivalent was getting a Fast Money cover shot.


The wall of shame says is 99.9% legit. I doubt that




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