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Yeah I always just kinda laugh at these comparisons, because it's usually coming from tech people who don't appreciate how much more valuable people's time is than raw opex. It's like saying, you know it's really dumb that we spend $4000 on Macbooks for everyone, we could just make everyone use Linux desktops and save a ton of money.


> It's like saying, you know it's really dumb that we spend $4000 on Macbooks for everyone, we could just make everyone use Linux desktops and save a ton of money.

Ohh idk if this is the best comparison, due to just how much nuance bubbles up.

If you have to manage those devices, Windows and Active Directory and especially Group Policy works well. If you just have to use the devices, then it depends on what you do - for some dev work, Linux distros are the best, hands down. Often times, Windows will have the largest ecosystem and the widest software support (while also being a bit of a mess). In all of the time I’ve had my MacBook I really haven’t found what it excels at, aside from great build quality and battery life, it feels like one of those Linux distros that do things differently just for the sake of it, even the keyboard layout, the mouse acceleration feeling the most sluggish (Linux distros feel the best, Windows is okay) even if the trackpad is fine, as well as stuff like needing DiscreteScroll and Rectangle and some other stuff to make generic hardware feel okay (or even multi display work), maybe creative software is great there.

It’s the kind of comparison that derails itself in the mind of your average nerd.

But I get the point, the correct tool for the job and all that.


Sorry for off-topic but IMO MacBooks started losing value hard since the release of macOS Tahoe.

They were super fast, now part of them are sluggish.

As much as people hate to hear it, Apple is finished. They peaked and have nowhere to go. AI bubble is not going to last more than 1-3 years still, and Apple's inability to make a stable OS upgrade that doesn't ruin people's machines performance puts them in a corner.

Combine this with the fact that MS announced end of support for Windows 10 and both these corporations ironically start to make a strong case for Linux.

Is Linux desktop quite there? Maybe not fully but it's IMO pushing beyond 80% and people who don't like Windows and macOS anymore are starting to weigh their options.


If "cloud" took zero time, then sure.

It actually takes a lot of time.


"It's actually really easy to set up Postgres with high availability and multi-region backups and pump logs to a central log source (which is also self-hosted)" is more or less equivalent to "it's actually really easy to set up Linux and use it as a desktop"

In fact I'd wager a lot more people have used Linux than set up a proper redundant SQL database


Honestly, I don't see a big difference between learning the arcane non-standard, non-portable incantations needed to configure and use various forks of standard utilities running on the $CLOUD_PROVIDER, and learning to configure and run the actual service that is portable and completely standard.

Okay, I lied. The later seems much more useful and sane.


What is this?!

You are self-managing expensive dedicated hardware in form of MacBooks, instead of renting Azure Windows VM's?!

Shame!


Don't be silly, - the MacBook Pro's are just used to RDP to the Azure Windows VMs ;)




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