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Are you suggesting that no meaningful distinction can be made in terms of morality between Trump and, say, Biden, Obama, Blair, the Bushes etc.?

Some people will point to their supposed crimes or immoral actions while in office, having to do with execution of their duties as president. Large countries tend to do many questionable things. But the current US administration is pretty unique in terms of its corruption, avoidance of accountability, authoritarian and fascist tendencies, etc.

It's not a useful contribution to the discussion to essentially claim that "they're all the same" without making some sort of case for it.



I'm suggesting that the morality of our leaders is not a barometer for the morality of the populace.


In a democracy there’s a correlation.


> But the current US administration is pretty unique in terms of its corruption, avoidance of accountability, authoritarian and fascist tendencies, etc.

I've mostly been reading that since the Bush years. Definitely said against Bush, Obama, Biden, and Trump. In fairness, I don't remember it about Clinton.

That you don't agree with a politician doesn't make him or her particularly worse than others.


He’s pretty objectively corrupt in regards to universal values of fairness, honesty, empathy etc. by an order of magnitude compared to a lot of recent presidents.


I would argue that yes, there’s no meaningful distinction between Biden and Trump. (And perhaps that Trump is more moral than Biden.)

I’d find your argument would be more persuasive if you outlined what you believe Trump had done worse than the others — rather than argument-by-name-calling.


There’s no point in discussing anything with someone that holds your position, against the enormous amount of evidence to the contrary. The best we can do is take action to prevent you from exerting any influence over society.


So it should be easy to show me, then. Go ahead, be specific.

Rather than accuse me of bad faith based on stereotypes.


That would be a waste of my time. There are more effective ways to fight positions like yours, and I'm involved in several of those.


Racist, dishonest, nepotistic, war mongering, anti meritocratic, fraudulent, vindictive, unscrupulous, corrupt, divisive, pedophile etc.




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